Comments for America Is Now a Socialist Nation. at http://www.rightsidenews.com , comment 1 to 5 out of 5 comments http://www.rightsidenews.com Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:13:19 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200912017561/editorial/america-is-now-a-socialist-nation.html#comment-4700 “The People's State of Marx ... will not content itself with administering and governing the masses politically, as all governments do today. It will also administer the masses economically, concentrating in the hands of the State the production and division of wealth, the cultivation of land, the establishment and development of factories, the organization and direction of commerce, and finally the application of capital to production by the only banker -- the State. All that will demand an immense knowledge and many heads "overflowing with brains" in this government. It will be the reign of scientific intelligence, the most aristocratic, despotic, arrogant, and elitist of all regimes. There will be a new class, a new hierarchy of real and counterfeit scientists and scholars, and the world will be divided into a minority ruling in the name of knowledge, and an immense ignorant majority. And then, woe unto the mass of ignorant ones!” Michael Bakunin "It is precisely this "new class" that reflects the defining contradiction of modern leftist reality: The goal of complete economic equality logically enjoins the means of complete state control, yet this means has never practically achieved that end. Yes, Smith and Jones, once "socialized," are equally poor and equally oppressed, but now above them looms an oligarchy of not-to-be-equalized equalizers. The inescapable rise of this "new class" -- privileged economically as well as politically, never quite ready to "wither away" -- forever destroys the possibility of a "classless" society. Here the lesson of socialism teaches what should have been learned from the lesson of pre-liberal despotism -- that state coercion is a means to no end but its own. Far from expanding equality from the political to the economic realm, the pursuit of "social justice" serves only to contract it within both. There will never be any kind of equality -- or real justice -- as long as a socialist elite stands behind the trigger while the rest of us kneel before the barrel." Barry Loberfeld http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guides/Z-Social Justice-Code for Communism.htm - Liberty-Clinger Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:02:19 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200912017561/editorial/america-is-now-a-socialist-nation.html#comment-4699 "The imperative of economic equality also generates a striking opposition between "social justice" and its liberal rival. The equality of the latter, we've noted, is the equality of all individuals in the eyes of the law…All this echoes Nobel laureate F.A. Hayek's observation that if "we treat them equally [politically], the result must be inequality in their actual [i.e., economic] position." The irresistable conclusion is that "the only way to place them in an equal [economic] position would be to treat them differently [politically]" -- precisely the conclusion that the advocates of "social justice" themselves have always reached…Hayek had continued, "Equality before the law and material equality are, therefore, not only different, but in conflict with each other" -- a pronouncement that evidently draws no dissent." Barry Loberfeld http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guides/Z-Social Justice-Code for Communism.htm - Liberty-Clinger Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:59:30 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200912017561/editorial/america-is-now-a-socialist-nation.html#comment-4697 "It had long been realized that the only secure basis for oligarchy is collectivism. Wealth and privilege are most easily defended when they are possessed jointly. The so-called "abolition of private property"...meant in effect the concentration of property in far fewer hands than before... It had always been assumed that if the Capitalist Class were expropriated Socialism must follow; and unquestionably the Capitalists had been expropriated. Factories, mines, land, houses, transport, everything had been taken away from them; and since these things were no longer private property it followed that they must be public property. Ingsoc (Socialist Principles of Oceania), which grew out of the earlier Socialist movement and inherited its phraseology, has in fact carried out the main item in the Socialist program with the result; foreseen and intended beforehand, that economic inequality has been made permanent." George Orwell, 1984 - Liberty-Clinger Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:55:29 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200912017561/editorial/america-is-now-a-socialist-nation.html#comment-4693 I am a libertarian socialist....the democrats are not SOCIALIST - moron Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:04:54 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200912017561/editorial/america-is-now-a-socialist-nation.html#comment-4689 Hussein and his Legion of Demons are trying their best, but I think Patriotic Americans will rise up and fight against this Useless Pontus sitting in the Oval Office. Obama is no Leader. He grovels before world leaders and thinks they respect him! They laugh at his weakness! Impeach Hussein Obama! - Bill Whitfield Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:39:43 +0100