Comments for Produce a Birth Certificate and End All Questions at http://www.rightsidenews.com , comment 1 to 5 out of 5 comments http://www.rightsidenews.com Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:35:43 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901103256/editorial/produce-a-birth-certificate-and-end-all-questions.html#comment-1151 The reason the rest of the country, the current sitting president, the congress, the RNC and a long list of people are NOT concerned about this "issue" is because there ie NO issue. There is no doubt he is american. Roselani is exactly right. There is no amount of info that would satisfy people who are obsessed with this issue. I do not think this obsession is about protecting the constitution, at all. I've encountered and attempted to discuss this issue with the 'true believers' and lately it has been my experience that if they had a long form certificate which they insist Hawaii can give out for 10$s, which is obviously not true, that they'd want to interview each doctor, see the hospital records and would certainly find credibility problems. They can't even decide how Obama isn't qualified or how he isn't a citizen. First he was born in Kenya and they base this mostly on an interview given over the phone by a man who is obviously already convinced Obama was born there. He asks leading questions and amazingly enough between the bad connection and a translater trying to keep track of two converstations at once, there is a brief misunderstanding and for a second the translater says something to the effect Obama was born there. Of course most recordings of this cut off RIGHT THEN and don't let you hear the correction. When confronted about this then the excuse his there were 'handlers' there that MADE him correct the story. This is an example of how no amt. of info is good enough, they just make more unfounded excuses for their beliefs that can't be proven or disproven. This is evidence of obsession. It is irritational, doesn't work in the light of day and those who believe this become incredibly defensive and tangential, ie start talking about his nic name 'barry' as if it was an alias and that he might be Indonesian. The analogy that works better in my mind since this 'issue' isn't about Obama, it is about those obsessed with this issue, is that of a jealous lover. They ask questions constantly, they don't hear the rational answer so they keep asking more, they ask leading questions, ones that might give evidence to say the others infidelity and THEN they focus on that, anything to focus on something they are avoiding. No answer is good enough for them, they are convinced and they just escalate. It is best in that situation to just stop giving answers as it burns all involved. That is just what Obama's team did, they stopped giving more answers, stopped addressing it and as could be predicted they used this as more suspicion afterall, if she wasn't cheating on me, why won't she deny it, why won't she just answer alll my questions, despite being irrational, despite my inability to communicate rationally about it? He put out that COLB in response to another conspiracy and now look, more obsession more question. The obvious answer to you sir is Obama DOES have a passport, he's had once for decades, he has shown his birth certificate to the state dept. He traveled overseas just last summer to Germany. I ve spoken to some who insist he flew on an Indonesian passport as a US senator. Isn't THAT an irrational thought? I've also had responses that he gets an 'automatic' passport as a Senator or a 'diplomatic' one(you get even more of a background check for those). I have a passport, my birth certificate had the same basic info as the one on factcheck.org that obama presented. As with most obsessions they fade, no one pays any attention and when given less attention, less questions answered the person eventually looks more and more absurd in their constant focus on something someone else has stopped paying attention to and has moved on. As I write this, this group of people demanding all this info is in this stage. I actually heard one say that for Obama's electoral votes to get certified it would take a miracle. Somehow this woman saw the rest of the world as concerned and as focused on it as she was, but then reality came. The senate went through the process of certification as a matter of protocal, there was never a question or doubt about it. So now they go about making up reasons this happened while their story about it gets more and more absurd and only makes sense to them. The person they ve created, the one they call "barack hussien obama" or "barry sotero" does not exist, they've invented an impossible set of scenerios. The amount of cover up for all this to pander out is astounding, not unlike the amount of cover up and the amount of people who'd have had to remain silent in regards to the 911 conspiracies. One of those pushing 911 conspiracies is also one of these lawyers pushing this one. The story IS the obsession. The story is CONSPIRACY theories, not the fcus of the conspiracy, this time Obama, before that 911, before that Vince Foster, etc, just as the obsession and jealousies of a spurned lover are more about them than the focus of their obsession. - devin Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:46:18 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901103256/editorial/produce-a-birth-certificate-and-end-all-questions.html#comment-1150 1. The Certification of Live Birth is the ONLY document the Hawaii Vital Statistics Bureau will produce upon application and payment of the fee. The state no longer issues certified copies of the "long form." What Obama has presented IS what the State Department accepts as a birth certificate for passport purposes. Considering that he bounced between parents and grandparents, it is possible he doesn't even have his long form any more. And some hospital-issued birth certificates aren't even accepted for passport applications. My husband, born in Hawaii in 1950, had to apply for the COLB, just like Obama produced. 2. It's absolutely untrue that "all this will go away" if he were to produce that one elusive document. Many people have given up on the "not born in the USA" argument and are arguing instead that his dual citizenship at birth disqualifies him as a "natural born citizen", regardless of the "long form." So there is, in fact, no satisfying the critics, who are only interested in bouncing Obama from office, by any means possible. 3. Either fight -- forcing the production of the long form or the dual-citizenship argument -- will require a court ruling. So if none of the cases is strong enough to draw judicial concern, then the Constitution IS upheld. Because it is up to the courts to interpret the "natural born citizen" meaning. That is a role that the Constitution gives to the courts. - Roselani Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:22:25 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901103256/editorial/produce-a-birth-certificate-and-end-all-questions.html#comment-1146 JM writes, "Only the insane and the incredibly racist believe that Obama is not a citizen of the US." OK! Let us assume that we are all "insane" and "incredibly racist". Does that mean that we insane and incredibly racist Americans are to be deprived of the right to defend our Constitution? Does this mean that we insane and incredibly racist Americans must bend over and see our way of life destroyed, the Constitution that we have offered our lives to defend and the Bill of Rights we have lived under ignored? I bravely say, "NO!" Every time the leftie idiots are questioned they resort to the race card. Well, screw you and your race card! I personally want Mr. Obama to prove he is a natural born citizen and I have the Constitutional right to make that demand. - Chuck Yung Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:41:19 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901103256/editorial/produce-a-birth-certificate-and-end-all-questions.html#comment-1143 There's one person who doesn't know he's an "illegal" president: George W. Bush. I don't know if you guys have noticed, but he's fully cooperated with Obama for the transition. If there was really any real doubt about Obama's citizenship, do you really think Bush would welcome him into the White House? Hell no! He'd be having a press conference every week demanding proof. So what's the conclusion? Only the insane and the incredibly racist believe that Obama is not a citizen of the US. Which category do you fall into? Probably both. - JM Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:04:51 +0100 http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901103256/editorial/produce-a-birth-certificate-and-end-all-questions.html#comment-1142 He's an illegal President - Elect. He knows it, his Party knows it and the American people know it. I reviewed every court decision regarding the matter. He, his Party nor anyone representing has presented "1" document that proves he's a "natural born " citizen. What does that tell you about our legal system. - RichieRich Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:11:40 +0100