Frontpage Interview's guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He is the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that's Conspiring to Islamize America. He can be contacted at davegaubatz@gmail.com.
FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
I would like to catch up with you today about the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and its activities.
Let's begin with CAIR's attacks on those freedom fighters in our society who are fighting to tell the truth about the enemy we face. Recently, CAIR sent a letter to the FBI and Virginia's Tidewater Joint Terrorism Task Force condemning Robert Spencer's training of U.S. law enforcement officers. The letter painted Spencer, as well as Pamela Geller, as essentially Islamophobes, bigots and unqualified to train law enforcement on Islamic based terrorist group issues. In a press release that followed, CAIR states that
Jesse Jackson has joined their campaign to get FBI head Robert Mueller to apologize for having Spencer speak.
What do you make of all of this?
Gaubatz: Thank you Jamie. I consider Robert Spencer and his close associate Pamela Geller to be leaders and among the most knowledgeable to train our law enforcement. I also consider them friends - as I do Steve Emerson, Nonie Darwish, Daniel Pipes, and the thousands of ACT members/leaders across America.
I feel it is important for readers to understand that anything said by either Jesse Jackson or CAIR should be ignored. Both have one common denominator: The truth means nothing to either. Author Kenneth R. Timmerman wrote an outstanding book, Shakedown: Exposing the Real Jesse Jackson, that I encourage all Frontpage readers to read.
In any case, if our law enforcement received their training in regards to Islamic based terrorist groups directly from the people/organizations I just mentioned, our country and our children would be well on its way to being secure. Robert Spencer is a professional, as are the others mentioned.
FP: Sp what do you make of letters like these being sent to the FBI by groups such as CAIR?
Gaubatz: Jamie, CAIR, Defending Dissent Foundation, Islamic Shura Council of Southern California, Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), MAS Freedom, Muslim Advocates, Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC),,Sikh Coalition, South Asian Americans Leading Together (SAALT) and such other groups as MANA, ISNA, MSA, IIIT are all Islamic based terrorist supporters. Our book, Muslim Mafia, clearly reveals the ties that CAIR and other members of the Muslim Brotherhood have to Islamic based terrorism.
When FBI Director Mueller received the letter we are discussing he should have immediately recognized the source and recognized the letter for what it is: a form of Jihad used to disrupt our law enforcement from doing their duties. Jihad comes in many forms. CAIR and others train their members to engage in the form of Jihad using the 'pen and tongue.' Essentially CAIR (Muslim Brotherhood) leaders rely on the 'pen and tongue' (articles, interviews, speeches, and other avenues of spoken and written media). The terrorist leadership relies on the physical form of Jihad (Jihad Qital/fighting) to be used by their followers such as Maj. Hasan who committed terrorism against innocent people at Ft. Hood.
Nihad Awad of CAIR and the other leaders count on low level Muslim worshippers who follow Islamic issues to target people who 'oppress CAIR, ISNA, etc...
FP: What is your professional opinion of Mr. Mueller? Are our law enforcement officers properly trained to protect our country?
Gaubatz: Well Jamie, first of all, our law enforcement is not properly trained in regards to how to conduct proactive investigations of Islamic based terrorist groups. I put much of the blame here at the doorstep of Mr. Mueller himself
