Written by Jamie Glazov - FrontPageMag.com
Frontpage Interview's guest is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT).
FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
Congrats on your new book Muslim Mafia.
Five missing American Muslim men have been arrested in Pakistan suspected of terrorist activity. CAIR claims that it assisted the FBI in this case. Your thoughts?
Gaubatz: Jamie, thank you.
I will get right to the point on this one. This is like Ismail Royer and Ali Al Timimi (both had strong relationships, and still do, with CAIR and are serving prison time for advocating terrorism against America) telling authorities they will help them prosecute Major Hasan from Ft. Hood.
I have been informing the public and law enforcement for years that the way to stop young Muslims in America from running away to fight Jihad against assumed 'oppressors' and enemies (to include America and Israel) is, for one, to stop groups like CAIR from promoting jihadist activity. We need to prosecute groups like this when they do things that are illegal. And let's be honest about the materials that they distribute.
FP: And these materials are?
Gaubatz: These are materials Islamic leaders are providing to their worshippers. They come directly from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Iran. They are current and are distributed in 2009 as a reference to how young Muslims should carry out their obligatory duties in regards to physical Jihad. Young Muslims are told exactly the manner and tactics to use during attacks, what to attack, and the type of weapons to use.
For instance, I have previously written about the manuals that call for having the exact weapons the alleged enemies of Islam have, must be manufactured and/or purchased in America for their use. Such weapons as chemicals, high-powered weapons, biological, and nuclear.
FP: Ok just a second. Are you stating that CAIR and other such groups promote and advocate young men to leave America and engage in physical Jihad?
Gaubatz: Yes Jamie. And I am not the one saying it. The materials that these groups distribute to young Muslims are saying it. I am just reporting on what I see. And not only are these materials telling young Muslims in America to leave America to fight enemies overseas; CAIR and their supporters advocate doing so in America as well.
CAIR has the same violent materials in their National HQ, and various chapters that the young men are using for references in their mosques. The ADAMS Center and Dar Al Hijrah (both Northern VA) are prime examples of violent material being provided to the worshippers (to include children). They literally have hundreds of manuals/books/DVDs, audio lectures informing the young Muslims to ignore the U.S. Constittution and our laws, and only obey Sharia law. These Islamic scholars encourage the youth to change America, even using violent force when required.
FP: Can you give us an example of what is in some material?
Gaubatz: One such manual I had obtained was distributed across America. It is one that goes into very direct detail on how the young Muslims (Soldiers of Allah) can take America down. I'll quote from it:
"It is imperative therefore that war be waged both specifically and against the larger totality before victory is possible. Archive systems, individual terminals, national debt-all these must be targeted. It is already well known what the reneging of one country on its massive debt would do to the total market stability. No one has yet contemplated the impact of one destroyed Stock Exchange or Central Bank Archive."
Jamie over the last few years I have conducted first-hand research in Islamic centers north, south, east, and west in our country. The message to attack our country, Israel, and other countries/people that support us is being advocated on a daily basis. The orders have been given to the young Muslims to hate Christians and Jews and to take every opportunity to conduct such attacks as Major Hasan did at Ft. Hood.
The senior leadership of the Muslim Mafia (Muslim Brotherhood) is full of hypocrites. They will tell naÃ¯ve politicians, media, and many Americans they are assisting the FBI, but in reality, as Paul Sperry and I have proven in our book, they are lying. Organizations such as CAIR, ISNA, MANA, must be legally closed down. There is already ample evidence to show they are involved in treason and sedition against America. Islamic scholars such as Siraj Wahhaj, Bilal Phillips, Ahmad Sakr, Yusef Estes, Shaykir Elsayed, Zaid Shakir, and dozens of others are encouraging acts of violence against innocent people of all races, religions, and colors who oppose the Muslim Brotherhood.
FP: What could be done immediately to reduce America's chance of another attack?
Gaubatz: With the documents pertained in our book, Muslim Mafia, the 12,000 other docs, and hours of video, along with information already known to the FBI and other law enforcement/intelligence agencies, a Congressional Hearing should be called and then Grand Jury Criminal Investigations pertaining to the organizations and people I mentioned above.
Have Nihad Awad and Ibrahim Hooper go before a Grand jury and swear under oath that they are not aware of any material in their faculties or in any Islamic center/mosque that calls for the overthrow of America by violent means. Have them swear under oath that they are not aware of any worshippers who have informed them they are prepared to commit violence against our law enforcement officers. A Muslim within the last year did write Nihad the right within Islam to use violence against U.S. Govt. officials. This information was not provided to law enforcement by Nihad Awad. I have always informed readers anything I have ever said or written can or already has been provided in a sworn statement.
FP: Additional crimes CAIR may be involved in?
Gaubatz: There are numerous, but it will take the FBI time and resources to go through all the evidence. The dots can be connected. CAIR has intentionally lied and has known some of their clients have lied to the FBI during investigations. For this reason alone they could be prosecuted and should be. The FBI knows where these documents are and they can possibly prevent another attack if they begin reviewing them immediately. I have faith in our 'street level' FBI agents. They know what needs to be done. Of course they will encounter 'political red tape' from their superiors, but I have confidence they will win this battle.
FP: Why do you think street level FBI agents can win a political battle with their superiors, many of whom have supported CAIR previously?
Gaubatz: Because I know the quality and professionalism of these agents. They have families, children, and love our country. They are at the stage that they are no longer going to allow politics, and political correctness, to cause the possible innocent deaths of our children, which they know could include theirs. The Muslim Brotherhood has only one allegiance: "To Allah". The Muslim Brotherhood does not care about our country, our families, and will attack even innocent children when the need arises to advance their cause.
Right now our politicians and law enforcement need to act. A failure to do so will result in more innocent deaths.
FP: Dave Gaubatz, thank you for joining us.
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