On Wednesday, November 18, Eric Holder testified before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee on the Obama administration decision to treat terrorists who committed war crimes as civilians and hold their trial in New York City. The Fort Hood massacre by a Muslim jihadi, Major Nidal Hassan, was also before the committee. The following is an excerpt from that hearing.
United States Attorney General Eric Holder
Testimony Before the United States Senate Judiciary Committee
Novemer 18, 2009Questions and answers, transcribed from C-Span tape, Morning Session. Emphasis added.
Section 1, The so-called 'Terror Gap'
First key exchange begins at counter number 1:11:08
Senator Feinstien:
"In June of 09 the GAO released a report indicating that individuals on terrorist watch lists succeeded in purchasing guns an astonishing 865 times between 2004 and 2009. This dangerous loophole in federal law is known as the 'Terror Gap' and its continued to allow the individuals on the FBI's terrorist watch list to purchase guns despite the fact they are not allowed to fly on an airplane. The Bush administration's Justice Department drafted and supported federal legislation to close this gap in the 110th Congress; and identical legislation has been introduced in the 111th Congress. Does the Justice Department support closing this gap and will you support that legislation?"
AG Holder:
"Yes, we will support that legislation. It seems incongrous to me that we would bar certain people from flying on airplanes because they are on the terrorist watch list and yet we would still allow them to posess weapons. I think that the legislation that was intially proposed by the Bush administration was well conceived and we will continue to support that."
Senator Feinstien:
"Excellent."
Section 2, Law Enforcement obtaining, retaining and sharing gun owner's data
Second key exchange begins at counter number 1:46:22
Senator Schumer:
"There are restrictions on even notification, so for instance the people in one end of the justice system, the Joint Terrorism Taskforce, were not notified when Major Hasan bought a gun. Thats not talking about whether the law should allow it or not, but clearly there should be notification. Now the Tiahrt amendment, the 24 background check requirement gets in the way of that. My question is: Will the Justice Department remove the Tiahr24 hour background check destruction requirement from its 2011 budget to allow the FBI to keep records of guns purchased by subjects of terrorist inquiries? I am just limiting it to that issue, like Major Hasan."
AG Holder:
"The position of the Administration is that there should be a basis for law enforcement to share information about gun purchases. Fully respect the Second Amendment, fully respect the Heller decision. It does not seem to us that this is inconsistent to allow law enforcement agencies to share that kind of information, for that information to be retained and then to be shared by law enforcement."
Senator Schumer:
"I would encourage you to write that into the budget that you are going to bring to us."
AG Holder:
"I believe it is. But I will have to check."
End Transcript
Source of transcript: Law Enforcement Alliance of America (LEAA)
Click here to view the video of the hearing on CSPAN
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The above transcripted exchange brings to mind earlier reports of this Administrations anti-gun legislation and seems to validate what was once only "suspected plans" to eliminate the 2nd Amendment as a right for thousands of Americans. Earlier this year, anyone who cried out the alarm of the impending infringement of our 2nd Amendment Rights was mocked as "right wing nut" who saw "conspiracies" everywhere. Now, all evidence would point to the validity of all the previous concern.
The steps taken in preparation for this seem to take form:
Janet Napolitano's Department of Homeland Security issued their memo identifying "right wing extremists" as violent, dangerous and worthy of watching;
Justification of names being placed on the government "Terrorist Watch List" and the list contains over 1 million names and growing (right wing extremists are everywhere it seems)
Once on the "list" it is virtually impossible to be removed, so if you have a bumper sticker that decries Illegal Immigration, or opposes abortion, or supports the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, or disagrees with socialized healthcare, or to the liberal left, the scariest of all - our nations returning VETERANS! you could well be on the list of those extremists who bear watching.
You will likely be the subject of extra security before being allowed to board your plane to go visit grandma and grandpa for Thanksgiving, and if Attorney General Holder and gun-hating Sen. Feinstein have their way, law abiding citizens of this country should be denied their 2nd Amendment right to "keep and bear arms", because they are on the "list".
Because this Administration needs justification, even the thinnest justification, to support their lies, they will use the Fort Hood tragedy to push their agenda to destroy the 2nd Amendment. They are not really concerned about the 800+ suspected terrorists who acquired guns (are they admitting that Nidal actually IS a terrorist or not?) they seemed overjoyed that this will give them the excuse to swat that fly with their sledgehammer by giving the AG Holder the power to use the watchlist as the determining factor in citizens getting their permission to own a gun.
Is it just me, or does that sound exactly like "infringement"? You remember, that "thing" that no one, especially the government, is supposed to do?
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Just thinking, connecting the dots . . .
