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| Wednesday, 15 July 2009 06:12 |
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Radio show host Rush Limbaugh said Palin may leave the GOP and form her own because Republicans have "been just as mean-spirited to her as the Democrats" have. "When I watched her speech when she announced she was going to leave the governorship of Alaska, I didn't hear the word Republican mentioned once," Limbaugh said. - NewsMax ----------- © Copyright 2008 - 2009 Appenzeller Business Press AG. All Rights Reserved. The Daily Bell is an informative compendium of independent economic views and analysis, which is published by Appenzeller Business Press AG. The information contained in the Daily Bell is for informational purposes only, is impersonal and not tailored to the investment needs of any particular person and should not be construed as financial or investment advice. Appenzeller Business Press AG does not accept any liability or responsibility for, nor does it verify the accurateness of the information being provided in the Daily Bell. Readers of the Daily Bell or any affiliated or linked sources or sites must accept the responsibility for performing their own due diligence before acting on any of the information provided within the report regardless of the source.
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  written by pat_ess, July 15, 2009
Rush Limbaugh has referred to himself as a conservative for decades.
 written by CD, July 15, 2009
There are so many problems with this that I don't even know where to begin. First, "libertarian Republicans" are really the conservative Republicans. You mean to say that the opposite of a Ron Paul Republican is a NEO Conservative. So you've really messed up the labeling here.
Ron Paul republicans want smaller government, less spending, less taxes, strong defense, but rebuke unconstitutional saber rattling across the world. They agree with the George Bush of 2000 who ran on a platform of no nation building and no policing the world. Remember? They are the real conservatives who want to conserve money and the constitutional, especially our liberties. The Fed controls all money and must be audited. Neo Cons sit around and decide who they are going to bomb next, raise taxes and expand government. They are no different from the Democrats whom they rail against. They love the Fed because they print the money to finance their wars. Sarah Palin is a good person and I really think she would fit in with Ron Paul, not the neo cons. And I guess you haven't been watching Joe Scarbourgh too closely either, since he is going around saying that Conservatives never believe in preemptive war. So, I would not put him in the neo con camp. What you have is 3 groups. 1) Ron Paul republicans who are the true conservatives, 2) Sara Palin fans who think they are conservative, but still need a lesson in foreign policy, and 3) neo cons who are the current establishment, who love war and big government and, quite simply, are just plain evil. 
 written by Dan Warner, July 15, 2009
I agree with CD. Ron Paul represents the true conservatives. The republican brand is damaged if not destroyed because they have abandoned all conservative principles. I think it is the current republican 'power broker elite' that needs to go. They are totally out of touch with rural America where the true conservatives live.
 written by Ron Moss, July 15, 2009
With two boys that ice skate, we have been thouugh the hockey, speed skate and dance routine and understand hockey moms. She can embark on whatever endeavor and be successful. WE are with her and Ron Paul in any direction towards the restoreation of our constitutional government
 written by DaveG, July 15, 2009
Wow, CD, you really explained it all! I was going to set the record straight as far as the misinformation/ disinformation in this article, but you already did that!
I don't have much to add to your explanation except something must be going on nationwide if the Neo-Cons that currently infest the Republican Party leadership are scared of so many people waking up and becoming Ron Paul Republicans, regardless of the fact that the media refuses to report on it. The reason being is that Ron Paul’s message is simply based on the Constitution, common sense, and the TRUTH – that’s why it attracts just about anyone that has *the chance* to hear it. In fact, the Republican party has been shrinking for years and the only people joining the party now are libertarian-leaning Ron Paul Republicans. It is really strange that this writer considers Dr. Paul and his supporters to be "trouble" when he's obviously the most honest man in politics, and practically the only one in Washington who takes his oath to the Constitution seriously. RP Republicans are the only ones who are helping to grow the party by getting involved politically, and trying to save it (and tend to be on the younger side, so they're not going away anytime soon). As far as third parties go, the (big L) Libertarian and Constitution parties have been wallowing in obscurity for year. If Palin does in fact start another third party, and it comes on the scene suddenly, with loads of funding and media exposure, then we will know that it's a fake gra*sroots movement (astroturfing). And this is, in fact, as the author of the article (maybe unknowingly) reveals, just an attempt by the Federal Reserve-supported anti-freedom globalist toadies “to co-opt the agenda of Libertarian Republicans and then regraft that agenda onto a larger pro-military, pro-security platform.”
 written by Kevin, July 15, 2009
What a foolish a*sessment. It couldn't be a worse idea. I agree with the above poster that said Palin would probably find more common ground with many of the libertarian Republicans in the party.
Now is a golden opportunity for Libertarians as there never has been before. The Republican party is weak, rudderless and does not provide a sound alternative for the American people. Now is their time to shine. Instead of trying to push out libertarians, Republicans should be bringing them in. If presented in a rational, sound way, I believe that the new Republican party could win many elections. This is quite ironic too because Rush has always said that splitting into a third party would be the worst possible idea, because then the Democrats would have an even larger majority because they would trounce any and all comers. It is time for the purge and decisions to be made. Does the Republican party want to keep up their antics of Democrat-lite, pushing us further over the edge, albeit at a somewhat slower pace? Or are they finally going to stand up and say, "enough," and "no more!" ? If it is the former, I'll never vote for them again.
 written by Matt, July 15, 2009
I'm a "Ron Paul Republican" and here is the major difference...How can you claim to be for limited government but then support nation building and Ma*sSIVE spending on a foreign policy - blowing up bridges then paying to rebuild them. BOTH the welfare AND the WARFARE state are destroying our country.
 written by JudiBug, July 15, 2009
Near the end of the campaign Ron Paul joined with Chuck Baldwin on principle. Ron Paul's campaign really didn't get off the ground either, though I think afterwards some, at least, were thinking how much better he would have been.
I think if Palin went with the Constitution Party people would come around to it pretty quick. However, although Palin is a good person she doesn't have the near the wisdom and maturity of Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin and appears to led too easily unless she was faking by McCain and Bush. The Republican party went back to the way it used to be and I don't think one could expect it to do anything else. It's funded by elites and now too corrupt to be worthwhile. Other countries have several parties, there's no reason to pooh pooh the idea that third party couldn't get up and go if a well know person would run for it. I just think Palin has a lot of growing up to do. Constantly getting into minor battles IS neo-conish and almost histrionic.
 written by armymamma, July 15, 2009
I'm a RP conservative *I refuse the label Rebpublican until the Republican party stops acting like Democrat lite* and I don't know how I feel about Sarah Palin. How can somebody who ran with McCain, who supports our interference with middle eastern government have anything in common with RP and the ma*sive movement he has started?
written by JudiBug, July 15, 2009
Palin in my view is altogether to quick to go with the power, but apparently she has not been able to be stable enough to hang on to it.
 written by Dave Williams, July 15, 2009
The Republican Party of Florida has started to purge Ron Paul Republicans from leadership posts and is attempting to ban some from party activity as well. There is a RPoF committee meeting on July 24-25 at the Gaylord Palms Hotel to address "party disloyalty".
 written by Rand Paul, July 15, 2009
For are the Ron Paul Republicans out there, just a heads up. His son and fellow doctor, Rand Paul, is running for the Senate seat in Kentucky in 2010. You can check out his website randpaul2010.com and pledge for the big moneybomb on August 20th, Ron Pauls Birthday, at RunRandRun.com.
Ron Paul has awaken a lot of people and the movement is defiantly gaining ground, but he is 74 years old and cannot do it forever, we need new people in office to carry the movement forward. Thats why we need Rand in the Senate in 2010 and who knows maybe he can pull an Obama and run for president in 2012. Please pledge for the money bomb.
 written by PJ Mcflur, July 15, 2009
Its obvious this writer has not been to any Paul rally's. Ill tell ya now, Paul is the future of the Republican party. What the writer does not know is how many county GOP's were taken over across the country or how the political experience we gained in 07-08 will help us prevail in 10 and 12.
The liberty movement is growing, not shrinking or slowing down. NO OTHER REPUBLICAN fired up a base to get involved at the local level. No other Republican has inspired our children. No other republican has the track record Paul does. In short, whether anyone likes it or not, Ron Paul has changed the face of the Republican party much like Goldwater did. Conservatives, real ones not neo=cons, will rebuild the party starting at the local level. Imagine, the GOP sticking up for the Fed. Not a smart move considering Pauls HR1207 bill is up to about 270 sponsors and could easily pa*s the house. Wake up and flush the toilet. Paul supporters are not going away.
 written by Brian York, July 15, 2009
There is no need to create another third "conservative" party. It already exists in the fastest growing third party; The Constitution Party. If you look at the withdrawl of Ron Paul from the presidential election, you will find that he didn't endorse his own party candidate or even the candidate of his former party, the Libertarians. He endorsed the CP candidate, Chuck Baldwin.
 written by Ron Paul Was Right, July 15, 2009
And what exactly is so wrong with the Ron Paul definition of Republican?
I think the problem lies with the people who are in power. They don't want to give up power. They don't seem themselves and representatives of the people, they see themselves as the one and only spokesperson of the people AND they don't even need to actually represent they people they are supposed to. They actually only represent 'towing the party line'. We need to rid our party of these corrupt and dangerous people and fill the party with people who are more aligned with true conservative and libertarianism principles.
 written by USMC, July 15, 2009
To think Palin is trying to flank Ron Paul is about the dumbest thing I've read so far. I read awhile back that Palin has a libertarian streak. Her husband isn't a Republican. This is mindless paranoia. She's not forming a third party. Read her speech. She tells you what she's going to do! She'll even support third party folks if need be.
The problem with libertarians is many of them seem obsessed with legalizing dope and they give this impression that unless we lose a city they won't fight! Read her freakin' speech it isn't hard. I marvel on how many people are clueless on what she wants to do when she says it explicitly!This is the first time in my life where I see a great opportunity to rid ourselves of this progressive crap and get back to our Foundation. If this is what the third party is all about it's no wonder you haven't made any head way. The Democrats are run by traitors, the Republicans are run by gutless turds and the third parties seem to be run by stuck ups. Put down your doobies and learn to read. This woman just might be what gets many libertarian, Constitution Party, etc. in D.C. 2010 you will see new faces and many of them will be "regular" folk, veterans, third party and many other lovers of the Constitution. By the way you Ron Paulers, more times than I can count have done nothing but trash veterans and the military. The Constitution Party has got their act together on that issue. Save me this more military gave our campaign than any other.
 written by tog2476, July 15, 2009
We have to snuff out any infiltrators, and check all voting records before we even listen to anyone trying to join the Ron Paul side of town. The fact that Scaraboroug is aligned with Brzezinski, tells me to run from whoever they are joining with. If Palin is joining that crew, well she can stay away from ours, Brzesinski and Scaraborough are two people we definitely don't want around. Be careful everyone, these people want to infiltrate us, and we need to sniff them out. Don't fall for the Palin shuffle. I smell a rat.
 written by D, July 16, 2009
I've never smoked a doobie (or tried any type of drugs for that matter) but I love Ron Paul.
 And war is a racket. Smedley Butler was right.
 written by Mike Wagner, July 16, 2009
As a long time libertarian I have to say that I do not, and have never considered myself a conservative. The term conservative is too slippery, too imprecise. In Russia, to be a conservative means to be a hard line communist. In the USA before 1860, to be a conservative meant to favor preserving slavery. In 1776 a conservative was one who opposed independence. The term conservative means different things in different times and places. In the 1930s conservative meant opposing big government and the international entanglements that get us into wars. Today conservative means just the opposite.
On the other hand, a libertarian is one who favors maximum possible freedom for the individual, which means minimum government. The term applies at all times and everywhere. I am a registered Republican but the ONLY reason I am is because of Ron Paul. If the Republican party is serious about attracting new members, and especially younger people, they will embrace Ron Paul's views and reject the bankster-controlled neocons.
 written by Tim Singleton, July 16, 2009
The same power brokers who continually are out front for the old guard Republicans have a tradition of brokering deals with their counterparts in the Democratic party. They have done this for years, common knowledge.
I have been a Republican up until this election. I am done compromising. If it means hard times until we can build a third party, then so be it. I am done with the Neo-conservatives as much as I am with the psuedo-marxists who call themselves liberals. As long as Ron Paul is in the Republican party, I will vote for him. Same for Sarah Palin. If they leave, I will vote for them in their new party. I am done aligning myself with two parties who have split the pool of virtues between them so I have to choose one set of betrayals or another.
 written by doobie, July 16, 2009
As embarra*sed as I am to say it, I voted for Bush twice. He lied and I'm done.
I will NEVER vote for a neo-con again. Nation-building is the neo-con mantra. Spreading "democracy" is B.S. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands...." Note, is does not say "...and to the democracy for which it stands." I'm wide awake and glad to be here.
 written by JC Denton, July 16, 2009
The Republican party is ours now. The neocoonservatives are finished. As long as they try to hold on to the party, we will keep it weak. As they leave, the party will grow.
 written by gator912, July 16, 2009
The author obviuosly doesn't know what he or she is talking about. We conservative republicans have made common cause with our libertarian brothers and sisters as contitutional republicans. We stand side-by-side at tea parties and rallies. The split is between the constitutional republicans and the progress-lite republican collaborators.
 written by Libs Suk, July 17, 2009
So,this bird thinks Osama Barak was responsible for radio talkers claimed conservatism on the day he was annointed? What BS! Conservatives were jumping off the Republican ship even before Juan McAmnesty was nominated but especially after. Now that the Republican Party has become liberal while the Democrat Party has become marxist, conservatives need a party that welcomes us! Noecons/liberals/RINOS now own the Republicrat Party.
 written by JT Alden, July 17, 2009
It's the Constitution Party !
I left the Republican party in 2000. Back then, Mr. Rush Limblow was complaining about how all these staunch Conservatives like myself, were not supporting Junior Bush. His response, everyday, was " well, we can't change government, unless we win the election and gain the power seats, blah, blah, blah." Problem was, Junior, as I and millions of others had always known, was NO Conservative ! In 2003, George Junior Bush, signed into law, MEDICARE PART D ! Forget Obama's Socialized medicine scheme, Medicare Part D ALONE, will bankrupt this nation. This was given to us, from good old George W., a so-called small government Republican ? ? Not quite. The Constitution Party is a very viable alternative. Myself and millions of others have been shouting this for years now, that it's time to join the movement. Tell people you are a Conservative. You now vote for the Constitution Party Candidates. The movement WILL grow. We will gain former Republican, Democrat and Independent Conservatives, that will soon begin joining the cause. The Libertarian wing, and or the Libertarian Party will never win a major election. Two reasons: dope and prostitution. They have, for the last 30 years, always claimed they are for small government, low taxes, etc. and then they conveniently thrown in the other BS, that says " and less government intrusion; therefore we should legalize drugs & prostitution, because that's none of the government's business either." This is why millions of Conservatives will NEVER endorse the Libertarian movement. The Republican Party is now run by the Blue-Blood moderates. If you want to achieve anything after you're elected in your district, you must comprimise with them. Therefore, I say, LET the Moderates have the Republican Party. We will then have 3 viable choices every election : the Democratic Party, the Republican Party and the Constitution Party, aka, the Liberals, the Moderates and the Conservatives. This is the ONLY chance we have of building a better nation and solid future for our children. One last point. Sarah Palin is no Conservative. She got elected as Governor of Alaska by running as a Moderate. When Rush Limblow complained in early 2008, he would not support either McCain or the Huckster, he begin pimping Sarah Palin for VP, since she was unknown nationally. They then tried to mold her as a Conservative. Limblow then said, " I will now call John McCain; John McBrilliant ! " I knew at that point, the ticket was doomed. Palin's claim to fame, is that Alaska accepts more Federal aid, per capita, than any other state in the Union. Therefore, she is NOT a Conservative !
 written by Barrett, July 17, 2009
I love how the Republican Party establishment is so bereft of ideas that they think tired old appeals to identity politics like fronting a female or ethnic candidate will make up for a complete lack of philosophical underpinnings and understanding of the Constitution. Sarah Palin will not save our party, Bobby Jindal will not save our party, and no other big-spending statist RINO will save our party.
Ron Paul, on the other hand, just might. Paul's colleagues and rivals during the '08 campaign continually marveled at his ability to muster a seemingly bottomless reserve of gra*sroots support, and many asked him how he did it. Did he use trendy social networking sites in a cra*s move to deliberately pander to the youth vote? No. Did he dump his considerable war-chest into hiring full-time pollers, taking out robo-calls, and running ads in major primary cities? No. The key to his success had nothing to do with glitz, glamor, fashion sense or "electability." It was, quite simply, his philosophy which sealed the deal. Murray Rothbard observed in his book "For a New Liberty" that, while the media would have us believe that Americans in general are non-ideological and take a pragmatic approach when selecting leaders, the very existence of The Libertarian Party, which is almost flamboyantly ideological, flies in the face of this understanding. Ron Paul's success boils down to the simple fact that he has the most substance, the keenest intellect, and the best answers to the problems Americans face today. To slightly recast a famous political slogan, "It's the philosophy, stupid!"
written by Conservative Republicans?, July 17, 2009
Maybe Sarah isn't as conservative as we far right wingers would like. I admit that. However, she is much closer to what our Founders invisioned than anyone else in the Republicrat Party besides Ron Paul. The reason you CP people will never get a candidate off the ground is because your most important goal is to trash your own candidates for not being perfect enough. Well we have another imperfect one for you out here on the left coast who is running on the American Independent ticket for governor who will win in spite of the party. Go to www.nightingaleforgovernor.com.
written by JT Alden, July 18, 2009
Sorry to the no name above, but Nightingale will not win the Callifornia governor's race.
The majority of folks in Cali are now way too liberal. Last time, it was a Socialist vs a RINO named Arnold. California will never elect another staunch Conservative. The days of Ronald Reagan are gone with the wind. It's purely a numbers game now. They do not have the votes in that state. The Socialists run Cali. They are going to blame their entire mess on Arnold, come the next Govenor's race. That's why they are stalling in the legislature. They realize that Arnold got lucky and got in the door. They won't let it happen again. Hat's off to Ms. Nightingale, but we need to be realistic. This is a fight you walk away from and spend the dollars elsewhere. We have TONS of other opportunites for the Constitution Party to gain ground with. California is NOT one of them. The timing is NOT right. Sorry, but I'm a realist. That race will be a no-win proposition for any type of conservative candidate.
 written by Larry Miller, July 24, 2009
The Republican Party as others have noted is back to being run by the country club bunch, call them neocons if you want, but they do not operate on the principles that most of the rank and file live by. I really don't think they are smart enough and powerful enough to set up a 3rd party which they are capable of pulling back in. In some ways splitting off the vote would cause them to loose even more seats, but that is not a problem as many are content with a firm grip on a minority party.
 written by Don Folkers, October 27, 2009
Apparently the Republican Party has forgotten how they got their start. The Whig Party died and the Republicans took its place.
written by CA Voter, December 09, 2009
I am a very strong believer that the 2 "big box" parties are merely 2 heads of the same liberty-eating monster. I have also been practically drooling at the prospect of the opportunity to vote for Sarah for anything. I am also what some would call a one-issue voter.
Any candidate who voices favor at granting amnesty for foreign colonists who come here to take our jobs, money and lives will never get my vote or support. In fact, they have become the enemy. For that reason, Palin's recent admissions that she will side with America's invaders instead of our citizens makes her inelegible to be a conservative or libertarian candidate. She is toast and I am brokenhearted.
 written by Jon Goldwin, March 17, 2010
Chelene Nightingale for Governor is a venture of misrepresentation and dirty politics. This "group" does not have the AIP backing...they are attempting to steal the AIP for their own use...(ie attention and potential money for fake campaigns) The woman running for Governor "nightingale" Is a rabid racist...stands on corners and hara*ses people with a bullhorn. Her campaign maligns and lies and are opportunists that think they have found a "weak" party to hijack. They are a bunch of misfit crooks. I know personally some of these people and I am shocked they would stoop to this level of deception. If you ask any of this cabal..about education...jobs they have held..they skirt the issue or rely on magical thinking...to create an image of importance. Truth be told...Nightingale is an unemployed actress..filed for bankruptcy..and has been sued by Jim Gilchrist of the minutemen for trying to hijack that group for monetary and other reasons. Sick twisted... and should be investigated...
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There's growing speculation from former aids, political journalists, and even Rush Limbaugh himself that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is considering forming a third party alternative for conservatives. Palin, the former GOP vice presidential nominee who stunned the political world by resigning as governor two weeks ago with 18 months left in her term, also posted a link to a column speculating about such a move on her Facebook page. Two articles, one from conservative writer Tammy Bruce, the other from The Washington Times, suggest she may be considering leaving the Republican Party to form a third party alternative.
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