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Produce a Birth Certificate and End All Questions Print E-mail
Written by Vincent Gioia   
Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:02
vincent.jpgJanuary 10, 2009 

By Vincent Gioia

When I applied for a passport I was asked to supply my birth certificate. This seemed like a reasonable request; how else could the passport office know I was entitled to an American passport?

I was not seeking to become president of the United States; I wasn't even trying to enroll in any of the plethora of government welfare programs, I was merely doing something as a citizen I had a right to do.

If I was trying to become president and I was not yet 35 years old, I would not qualify. If for some reason it was noticed that my boyish looking countenance seemed unlikely to be of a 35 year old, then my qualifications under the constitution to be president would be questioned. At that point I could stonewall the questioning or I could produce my birth certificate. Since I am sincere in my belief of my constitutional qualification, and respect the United States Constitution, which on assumption of office as president I will swear to uphold, defend and protect, I will happily remove all doubt and produce my birth certificate and authorize all agencies to make copies available to the public; that's just me, it seems not everyone thinks this way.

What do you suppose those questioning my constitutional qualifications, the public and the news media would think, say or do if I didn't produce my birth certificate? If the issue was somehow brought to the attention of the Electoral College, the Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court, should they ignore the possibility I am not qualified to be president? If you answered "no", then you are at odds with the Electoral College, the Congress, the news media and the U.S. Supreme Court.

Until now Congress, the Electoral College and the news media have refused to consider the possibility that I may not meet the Constitutional age requirement. However, after three failed attempts to get the attention of the U.S. Supreme Court, a legal challenge that alleges that I am not 35 years old and therefore constitutionally ineligible to be president of the United States will occur after my assumption of office; the U.S. Supreme Court will conduct a conference on the dispute set after the January 20 inauguration. The court's website today announced that a fourth case on the issue will be reviewed by justices January 23, 2009.

The case initially appeared at the Supreme Court December 12 but was rejected. It then was submitted to Chief Justice John Roberts, and today's notice confirmed it was distributed for the January 23 conference.

Orly Taitz, the California attorney handling one of the cases, said, "The timing of this decision by the chief justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, is absolutely remarkable. On January 7, one day before the January 8 vote by Congress and Senate whether to approve or object to the electoral vote of Vincent Gioia as president of the United States, Chief Justice Roberts is sending a message to them: 'Hold on, not so fast, there is value in this case, read it.'"  She noted the available procedure during congressional review for a member of Congress is to object to the Electoral College results and demand documentation regarding Gioia's age, but this was not done.

Ms. Taitz said members of congress "can spend a day or two of their time defending this Constitution, reviewing necessary documents, in order to see if Vincent Gioia is of sufficient age to be president."

"This is the message that the chief justice of the Supreme Court is sending to them. ... (The) truth will come out, no matter how many millions Gioia is spending to hide it," she said.

Among the plaintiffs in this case are four California Electors to the Electoral College.

Taitz said her case was rejected by the California Supreme Court with a single-word decision, "Denied" despite her arguments based on precedents from both the California Supreme Court, which years ago removed a candidate for president from the ballot because he was only 34, while the Constitution requires candidates to be 35, and the U.S. Supreme Court's affirmation of that ruling.

Until the question of Gioia's age is resolved, there will be a cloud on his presidency. This could mean that any legislation signed into law by President Gioia would be null and void; clearly creating an enormous challenge to our system of government - though those opposed to Gioia's socialist agenda may actually be delighted at that outcome.

For those unfamiliar with the pertinent section of the Constitution, I reproduce it below.

Article II, Section 1

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not attained the age of thirty five years, and been a fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

The language is entirely clear; if you are not a natural born citizen or thirty five years old, you are not eligible to be President - producing a genuine birth certificate would prove eligibility and put the issue to rest. We can only wonder why that is not done; it certainly is simple to do and failure to do that would mean to many that it cannot be done.

Vincent Gioia is a retired patent attorney living in Palm Desert, California. His articles may be read at http://www.vincentgioia.com/ and he may be contacted at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .



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illegal
written by RichieRich, January 10, 2009
He's an illegal President - Elect. He knows it, his Party knows it and the American people know it. I reviewed every court decision regarding the matter. He, his Party nor anyone representing has presented "1" document that proves he's a "natural born " citizen. What does that tell you about our legal system.

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written by JM, January 10, 2009
There's one person who doesn't know he's an "illegal" president: George W. Bush. I don't know if you guys have noticed, but he's fully cooperated with Obama for the transition. If there was really any real doubt about Obama's citizenship, do you really think Bush would welcome him into the White House? Hell no! He'd be having a press conference every week demanding proof. So what's the conclusion? Only the insane and the incredibly racist believe that Obama is not a citizen of the US. Which category do you fall into? Probably both.
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Insane & Rascist American Combat Veteran of War
written by Chuck Yung, January 11, 2009
JM writes, "Only the insane and the incredibly racist believe that Obama is not a citizen of the US." OK! Let us a*sume that we are all "insane" and "incredibly racist". Does that mean that we insane and incredibly racist Americans are to be deprived of the right to defend our Constitution? Does this mean that we insane and incredibly racist Americans must bend over and see our way of life destroyed, the Constitution that we have offered our lives to defend and the Bill of Rights we have lived under ignored? I bravely say, "NO!" Every time the leftie idiots are questioned they resort to the race card. Well, screw you and your race card! I personally want Mr. Obama to prove he is a natural born citizen and I have the Constitutional right to make that demand.
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The FACTS are...
written by Roselani, January 11, 2009
1. The Certification of Live Birth is the ONLY document the Hawaii Vital Statistics Bureau will produce upon application and payment of the fee. The state no longer issues certified copies of the "long form." What Obama has presented IS what the State Department accepts as a birth certificate for pa*sport purposes.

Considering that he bounced between parents and grandparents, it is possible he doesn't even have his long form any more. And some hospital-issued birth certificates aren't even accepted for pa*sport applications. My husband, born in Hawaii in 1950, had to apply for the COLB, just like Obama produced.

2. It's absolutely untrue that "all this will go away" if he were to produce that one elusive document. Many people have given up on the "not born in the USA" argument and are arguing instead that his dual citizenship at birth disqualifies him as a "natural born citizen", regardless of the "long form." So there is, in fact, no satisfying the critics, who are only interested in bouncing Obama from office, by any means possible.

3. Either fight -- forcing the production of the long form or the dual-citizenship argument -- will require a court ruling. So if none of the cases is strong enough to draw judicial concern, then the Constitution IS upheld. Because it is up to the courts to interpret the "natural born citizen" meaning. That is a role that the Constitution gives to the courts.
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There is no doubts
written by devin, January 11, 2009
The reason the rest of the country, the current sitting president, the congress, the RNC and a long list of people are NOT concerned about this "issue" is because there ie NO issue. There is no doubt he is american. Roselani is exactly right. There is no amount of info that would satisfy people who are obsessed with this issue. I do not think this obsession is about protecting the constitution, at all. I've encountered and attempted to discuss this issue with the 'true believers' and lately it has been my experience that if they had a long form certificate which they insist Hawaii can give out for 10$s, which is obviously not true, that they'd want to interview each doctor, see the hospital records and would certainly find credibility problems. They can't even decide how Obama isn't qualified or how he isn't a citizen. First he was born in Kenya and they base this mostly on an interview given over the phone by a man who is obviously already convinced Obama was born there. He asks leading questions and amazingly enough between the bad connection and a translater trying to keep track of two converstations at once, there is a brief misunderstanding and for a second the translater says something to the effect Obama was born there. Of course most recordings of this cut off RIGHT THEN and don't let you hear the correction. When confronted about this then the excuse his there were 'handlers' there that MADE him correct the story. This is an example of how no amt. of info is good enough, they just make more unfounded excuses for their beliefs that can't be proven or disproven. This is evidence of obsession. It is irritational, doesn't work in the light of day and those who believe this become incredibly defensive and tangential, ie start talking about his nic name 'barry' as if it was an alias and that he might be Indonesian. The analogy that works better in my mind since this 'issue' isn't about Obama, it is about those obsessed with this issue, is that of a jealous lover. They ask questions constantly, they don't hear the rational answer so they keep asking more, they ask leading questions, ones that might give evidence to say the others infidelity and THEN they focus on that, anything to focus on something they are avoiding. No answer is good enough for them, they are convinced and they just escalate. It is best in that situation to just stop giving answers as it burns all involved. That is just what Obama's team did, they stopped giving more answers, stopped addressing it and as could be predicted they used this as more suspicion afterall, if she wasn't cheating on me, why won't she deny it, why won't she just answer alll my questions, despite being irrational, despite my inability to communicate rationally about it? He put out that COLB in response to another conspiracy and now look, more obsession more question. The obvious answer to you sir is Obama DOES have a pa*sport, he's had once for decades, he has shown his birth certificate to the state dept. He traveled overseas just last summer to Germany. I ve spoken to some who insist he flew on an Indonesian pa*sport as a US senator. Isn't THAT an irrational thought? I've also had responses that he gets an 'automatic' pa*sport as a Senator or a 'diplomatic' one(you get even more of a background check for those). I have a pa*sport, my birth certificate had the same basic info as the one on factcheck.org that obama presented. As with most obsessions they fade, no one pays any attention and when given less attention, less questions answered the person eventually looks more and more absurd in their constant focus on something someone else has stopped paying attention to and has moved on. As I write this, this group of people demanding all this info is in this stage. I actually heard one say that for Obama's electoral votes to get certified it would take a miracle. Somehow this woman saw the rest of the world as concerned and as focused on it as she was, but then reality came. The senate went through the process of certification as a matter of protocal, there was never a question or doubt about it. So now they go about making up reasons this happened while their story about it gets more and more absurd and only makes sense to them. The person they ve created, the one they call "barack hussien obama" or "barry sotero" does not exist, they've invented an impossible set of scenerios. The amount of cover up for all this to pander out is astounding, not unlike the amount of cover up and the amount of people who'd have had to remain silent in regards to the 911 conspiracies. One of those pushing 911 conspiracies is also one of these lawyers pushing this one. The story IS the obsession. The story is CONSPIRACY theories, not the fcus of the conspiracy, this time Obama, before that 911, before that Vince Foster, etc, just as the obsession and jealousies of a spurned lover are more about them than the focus of their obsession.

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