Challenge, can anyone prove this wrong?:–

1. Constitution Article II requires USA President to be “natural born citizen”.

2. BHO’s website admits his dad was Kenyan/British, not American, citizen when BHO was born.

3. BHO is therefore not a “natural born citizen” (irrespective of Hawaiian birth or whether he may be a 14th Amendment “citizen” of USA) — as confirmed in the Senate’s own McCain qualification resolution agreed to by BHO.

4. Supreme Court has already docketed two upcoming conferences, 1/9/09 and 1/16/09 — between dates Congress counts electoral votes (1/8/09) and Presidential inauguration (1/20/09) — to address Berg Case and fashion relief on BHO’s eligibility to be President.

5. Since no facts are in dispute, Supreme Court rules on Summary Judgment to enjoin BHO’s inauguration as President.

6. Therefore, BHO is not inaugurated as President.

7. Vice President Elect Biden is inaugurated Acting President under the 20th Amendment to serve until new President is determined — the procedure for which determination to be set out by Congress and/or the Supreme Court so long as in conformance with the Constitution.

in 1898, in the case United States v. Wong Kim Ark, The Supreme Court wrote:

The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The Amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born, within the territory of the United States, of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke in Calvin's Case, 7 Rep. 6a, "strong enough to make a natural subject, for if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject;" and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, "if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle." It can hardly be denied that an alien is completely subject to the political jurisdiction of the country in which he resides -- seeing that, as said by Mr. Webster, when Secretary of State, in his Report to the President on Thrasher's Case in 1851, and since repeated by this court.

How do you interpret that?

AXJ promises to be first to publish documentation from AXJ-UK proving OBAMA not born in the US.

www.axjus.com

To Alferd Packer:

If you re-read the text that you quoted it's clear that it was not talking about Natural Born Citizenship, but citizenship period.

to these conclusions: the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory,

This merely confirms that citizenship by birth was true for ALL persons born on American Territory's. However it clarifies what that means later on.

"if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle."

Absolutely NOTHING in those words makes a child born of non-citizen(s), as this merely clarifies the jurisdiction & allegiance they have to and from America.

Anyways if you bother reading the entire court opinion you'll see that the court discussed NBC, but NEVER proclaimed that Kim Wong Ark was anything more than a citizen. Here's the actual important part of the opinion:

“The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties, were to present for determination the single question, stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative.”

Citizen - Yes
NBC - No

Now in Minor v. Happersett the same SCOTUS sites "Laws of Nations":

” ‘At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this cla*s there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient, for everything we have now to consider, that all children, born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction, are themselves citizens.’ Minor v. Happersett (1874) 21 Wall. 162, 166-168.”

Even the SCOTUS at that time knew that an NBC came from 2 citizens, not 1 citizen & 1 foreigner.

In answer to Ted:

There are numerous issues about Obama's past that can only be speculated about because the records have not been produced. All we have is a worthless document called a Certification of Live Birth sent to pro-Obama websites. There are several possibilities that could prove Obama is ineligible, but the starting place is production of a certified copy of his birth certificate.

1. If Obama were not born in Hawaii or US territory then he is not a natural born citizen:
http://www.volokh.com/posts/1227910730.shtml


The laws at the time of Obama's birth,and that are still in effect say that Obama Mama had to reside in the US for 5 years past her 14th birthday. As she was not yet 19 when Obama were born she could not transfer natural born status to Obama:

"So, as I now read 8 U.S.C. § 1401, "a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States" before Nov. 14, 1986 is a natural-born citizen only if the citizen parent "was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years" — the same rule that was in place in the early 1960s. See also United States v. Flores-Villar, 497 F. Supp. 2d 1160, 1162-64 (S.D. Cal. 2007) (taking the same view and concluding the change from ten years/five years to five years/two years only applied to people born after 1986), aff'd, 536 F.3d 990 (9th Cir. 200 (so a*suming but not discussing it in detail); Rico-Ibarra v. Mukasey, 281 Fed. Appx. 694, 695 n.1 (9th Cir. 200 (not precedential)."

2. Until Obama produces legitimate documents to confirm where he was born we all just speculate about this issue. The short form certification of live birth does not contain any verifiable facts like the name of the hospital, doctors or witnesses. A certified copy of the birth certificate is available if Obama were to sign a release and pay $10.00. Read pages 7-11:

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula.pdf

Even if he was or is a natural - born citizen the issue is holding duel citizenship and not renouncing one at 18.
There are a few other issues that go along with this including weather he did or did not fill out his selective service requirement. (This is another issue that i have seen ppl talk about bringing up as if he did not he is ineligible to server any US government office)

However I believe the issue that the Supreme Court might review is the undisputed fact that he was Adopted and that adoption gave him citizenship to a country who we were not allied with at the time. I think that this is why he is hiding his birth certificate, because in a legal adoption his name and father would of changed and weather or not that changes his Citizenship is a big question that needs to be answered for so many reasons. As no one I have spoken to really knows where adoption plays into the constitutional ruling and the arguments could take a long time to clear up so better to hide then to find out? Unfortunately this seems much like the Bush solution to a problem, i think standing up and facing the music and the issue is a lot better and would show better leadership skills then this man has shown so far.

JM, it does matter if he was born in Kenya. Even if both his parents were US citizens. Natural Born Citizen, means born on US soil. Otherwise he would have had to have been naturalized. The birth announcements were usually weeks behind the actual birth in Hawaii at the time. His gramma said he remembered when he was born in Kenya. She was there. People don't seem to know the difference between natural born and naturalized, so they just drop that part and leave citizen. It is the only office with that qualification.

And when he went to Indonesia he had to renounce his US citizenship to go to school, because they didn't recognize dual citizenship. Then to return to the US he would have had to become renaturalized, even if he was a natual born citizen in the first place, he wouldn't be anymore.

JM, it does matter if he was born in Kenya. Even if both his parents were US citizens. Natural Born Citizen, means born on US soil. Otherwise he would have had to have been naturalized. The birth announcements were usually weeks behind the actual birth in Hawaii at the time. His gramma said he remembered when he was born in Kenya. She was there. People don't seem to know the difference between natural born and naturalized, so they just drop that part and leave citizen. It is the only office with that qualification.

And when he went to Indonesia he had to renounce his US citizenship to go to school, because they didn't recognize dual citizenship. Then to return to the US he would have had to become renaturalized, even if he was a natual born citizen in the first place, he wouldn't be anymore.

The question is real. People are avoiding this question by pulling the race card constantly. It’s not that hes part black, middle eastern or even white (I think), it’s the fact that somethings wrong. Obama’s whole presidency started with too many problems, as if it started with the idea of stubbing your toe in the morning leads to a bad day idea. Too many problems and that HIS party isn’t willing to fess up about. Show “US” the Americans that his Presidency is valid some how some way. Then WE will forget about how WE were wrong about false accusations. At least give US the chance to be wrong. This is the thing, everyone is getting angry over sides and not addressing the real question. We all have to stand together and unite as a country and ask real questions. It's not a horrible thing to wonder if country's leader is possibly a fake. There are many times in our American history that something so simple was let go for so long, then something bad happens and we never stood up to watch over ourselves. Stop argueing and demand answers, so what if we are wrong, at least we as a whole will know for sure. This may sound strange to some, but if this Presidency is fraudulent, this nation would turn extremely angry with our own government and possible civil war would occur. I'm not sure If everyone in here understands that just because some agree and some don't, if this turns out to be a disaster, it effects everyone. The civil war has already begun by questioning our authority.

OBAMA was adopted.