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Indian Scientist Mocks Nobel Prize Award to Gore August 19, 2008 -- A major international scientific conference prominently featured the voices and views of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. The International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists' equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Oslo, Norway, from August 4-14.
[The conference was criticized by the activists at RealClimate.org (who apparently are threatened by any challenges to their version of consensus' on global warming science) for being too balanced and allowing skeptical scientists to have a forum. RealClimate's Rasmus E. Benestad lamented on August 19 that the actual scientific debate during the conference "seemed to be a step backwards towards confusion rather than a progress towards resolution." ]
During the Geologic conference, Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia of the Center of Advanced Study in Geology at Punjab University and a visiting scholar of the Geology Department at University of Cincinnati, openly ridiculed former Vice President Al Gore and the UN IPCC's coveted Nobel Peace Prize. [An online video of an August 8, 2008, conference climate change panel has been posted and is a must-see video for anyone desiring healthy scientific debate. See: HERE ] "I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists," Ahluwalia, a fellow of the Geological Society of India, said during a question and answer panel discussion. [Ahluwalia's remarks can be viewed beginning at 22:14 of the online video] - [ Ahluwalia's full bio here: ] Elite IPCC' Ahluwalia, who has authored numerous scientific studies in the fields of geology and paleontology, referred to the UN climate panel as the "elite IPCC." "The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn't listen to others. It doesn't have open minds." [See other critiques of IPCC here: UN IPCC 'a purely political body posing as a scientific institution' - & here: Report Debunks So-Called 'Consensus' On Global Warming ] Ahluwalia, a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet (http://www.yearofplanetearth.org) also criticized the promoters of man-made global warming fears for "drawing out exaggerated conclusions" and took the UN to task for failing to allow dissenting voices. "When I put forward my points in the morning, some IPCC official got up to say that what I was [saying was] nonsense.' See, when we have that sort of attitude, that sort of dogma against a scientific observation that would not actually end up in very, very positive debate. We should maintain our sense of proportion, maintain our sense of objectivity, allow a discussion -- not have fixed mindset about global warming," he said to applause from the members. [Note: Ahluwalia was also joined by another Indian scientist at the conference, see video at 17:18 - In addition, the government of India and several prominent Indian scientists have recently voiced their skepticism about climate change science. See: India Issues Report Challenging Global Warming Fears - July 9, 2008 - Panel participants at the August 8 debate included skeptical Physicist Dr. Henrik Svensmark of the Danish National Space Centre and Paleoclimate scientist Dr. Bob Carter of Australia's James Cook University, former chairman of the earth science panel of the Australian Research Council, who has published numerous peer-reviewed papers and is an outspoken dissenter of Gore and the UN IPCC's climate claims. Prominent scientist Professor Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, a leading world authority on sea levels and coastal erosion who headed the Department of Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics at Stockholm University, was also on hand during the panel's question and answer session. A Canadian paleoclimatolgist/sedimentary geologist openly dissented from UN IPCC views during the panel's Q & A session. "I think the scientific community is putting way too much faith on these models, especially given the fact that they have not been able to predict 5-day weather forecasts yet and weather systems are simpler than the climate, and every 5 days they have a chance to test the model and improve it," the Canadian scientist said. [ At 43:30 and 44:35 of online video] "A lot of the predictions made by modelers and models do not match very well to the longer term geologic record and even more scary, most atmospheric scientists are not aware of that," he explained. For how many years must cooling go on?' Another scientist stood up to a key question about the recent global cooling trend. "We know temperature goes up and down, we know there is tremendous amount of natural variations, but for how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand -- we politicians and scientists-- that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" the scientist asked to applause from the audience. # # # Related Links:
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  written by Bob78, December 10, 2008
I wonder who history will prove to be the most confidently wrong, dead wrong - Bush or Gore ?
 written by Dr. Herbert Lindberg, December 12, 2008
It's time to stop nibbling around the edges and form a counter organization which pulls together all the skeptic views and data and presents them as a unified voice for accurate, peer-reviewed science. It does little good to have 650 separate voices asking questions and making statements statements from the audience. We need to be on the stage, presenting well-documented counter arguments. These views must be an integral part of any report from the IPCC. If the IPCC doesn't allow such counter arguments in their report, this in itself will be strong evidence of one-way science.
 written by winning at craps , December 29, 2008
Ever since the google earth was launched i have been using it. It allows to see the world without ever having to leave your desk. It has been used as a learning tool and some people just find it quite addictive to sit and view various parts of the world.Most people think it’s live satellite imaging but if they knew it was only made up of old photos taken at various zoom levels patched together, it may lose a lot of appeal. Personally I think its good software just not something google should be investing millions into unless they find more uses for it.
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Now, here we are again but this time dissenters are giving voice. It remains to be seen if the dissenters views are respected and we move away from the over-heated rhetoric (pun intended) to true science.
What we need to understand is how the planet's weather moves through cycles, all of the drivers of those cycles, identify where we are in a cycle, and predict how it will affect the earth for the purposes of public policy.
Anyone who looks at the geologic record understands the earth has been cooler and warmer than now. I submit the earth does not have a thermostat which humankind can set for maximum personal and economic comfort.
We need a larger research effort in this regard, and a little humility... ...well, maybe a lot more humility.